(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:2]ST[2] RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[9]KM[0.50] PW[willzhang]PB[willzhang]WR[9d]BR[9d]DT[2006-06-07]PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http://kgs.kiseido.com/]AB[dd][jd][pd][dj][jj][pj][dp][jp][pp]LB[mp:C][np:B][mq:D][nq:A]C[Shibuya [23k?\]: yo rayen [6k\]: funny pic :p willzhang [9d\]: dont you think he is powerful? :) rayen [6k\]: he looks like a smart cat willzhang [9d\]: look at his eyes~~ grmaster [1d?\]: looks like he has somthing on his mind ^^ SoFarAway [?\]: Garfield is always having some trouble making mind go [9k?\]: i wonder what he is looking at SoFarAway [?\]: lasagna erguvani [5k\]: probably food pinkrose [8k\]: possiblelt female feline SoFarAway [?\]: Thank you for doing this so much Willzhang. molboni [12k?\]: garfield! willzhang [9d\]: today's lecture is for beginners willzhang [9d\]: I hope it will be useful for you to beat your teachers :) kyurin [1d\]: :-[ SoFarAway [?\]: :( molboni [12k?\]: yes~ pinkrose [8k\]: ^_^ SoFarAway [?\]: What rank is a beginner? Pepijn [8k?\]: everything under 2dan counts as a beginner go [9k?\]: amateurs are beginners kyurin [1d\]: i'd say everything under 4dan :P willzhang [9d\]: even myself :) willzhang [9d\]: maybe pinkrose [8k\]: :-D Shibuya [23k?\]: i am beginner Shibuya [23k?\]: only 23k Shibuya [23k?\]: =) SoFarAway [?\]: Well if Willzhang is beginner I can learn then kyurin [1d\]: beginner is someone who has only been playing less than 6 months Shibuya [24k?\]: thats me Shibuya [24k?\]: ok now i am 24k..... Shibuya [24k?\]: T.T SoFarAway [?\]: I know a 21k who has played non stop for 2 years Dunja [17k\]: Thats sad kyurin [1d\]: he is just bad, not a beginner erguvani [5k\]: by himself only? SoFarAway [?\]: On here KGS erguvani [5k\]: may be could not have a chance to play stronger Shibuya [24k?\]: anyone want to play with me till the lesson starts? willzhang [9d\]: ok,btw ,I am trying to give two lecture per week now ( free always) erguvani [5k\]: great rayen [6k\]: nice Shibuya [24k?\]: nice! willzhang [9d\]: 1.36 stratagems 2.basic skills Shibuya [24k?\]: i see Shibuya [24k?\]: whats 36 stratagems? Shibuya [24k?\]: is it some trick shapes? SoFarAway [?\]: Willzhang would you mind putting the times in your info per week in advance willzhang [9d\]: I will try to convince every teacher here give their own lecture in the future Shibuya [24k?\]: nice! willzhang [9d\]: I will do that, thanks willzhang [9d\]: "The 36 Stratagems Applied to Go"--by ma xiaochun WildW [9k\]: why does black have 9 handicaps ? willzhang [9d\]: chinese 9P willzhang [9d\]: 9handicaps could be a big advantage or nth at all willzhang [9d\]: depends how you use them kyurin [1d\]: you are not doing voice lesson today? willzhang [9d\]: ok, test for voice now rayen [6k\]: I hear you kyurin [1d\]: hello WildW [9k\]: wow you're loud go [9k?\]: yes chrpa [6k\]: hello theshogun [12k\]: ^^ WildW [9k\]: but that's good kyurin [1d\]: ;-\] kyurin [1d\]: sounds good WildW [9k\]: becaue I have music on WildW [9k\]: nice, loud and clear ^^ ] (;W[np]CR[np] ;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[pq]CR[pq] ;B[qq]CR[qq] ;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[qr]CR[qr]) (;W[nq]CR[nq]LB[pn:E][qn:D][np:B][lq:A][oq:C]C[chrpa [6k\]: p3 kyurin [1d\]: chicken game? :-\] CBlue [8k\]: m3 ? AprilSnow [?\]: p3 WildW [9k\]: O4 geoduck [3k?\]: q6? rayen [6k\]: P2 Q2 feyd [15k?\]: n3? potipoti [6d?\]: q3 also? chrpa [6k\]: i ll save lecture willzhang [9d\]: I am working to the web now ,hope it will finish soon :) godspeed [7k\]: :) ir [5k\]: 很好 ImNoSensei [-\]: thx a lot Willzhang ! godspeed [7k\]: thx for teaching us diomedes [17k\]: thank you chrpa [6k\]: good bye grmaster [1d?\]: I have a little question ^^ willzhang [9d\]: and hope you can beat some strong player after this lecture :) Jinging [?\]: can you save the audio as well? willzhang [9d\]: ok.go on feyd [15k?\]: :) grmaster [1d?\]: in sequence Q6 G4 K6 Dunja [17k\]: thx a lot! ] (;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[np]CR[np] ;B[pn]CR[pn] (;W[lq]CR[lq] ;B[gq]LB[dp:A][jp:C][gq:B]) (;W[gp]CR[gp] ;B[lp]CR[lp]TR[np][nq] ;W[nn]CR[nn]C[rayen [6k\]: even a 9p cant do magic tricks :-) Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: wtf Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: willzhang is 9p ? rayen [6k\]: no kyurin [1d\]: no.. Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: oh ok ] ;B[km]LB[km:A][jp:B][lp:C]C[Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: dog head ? rayen [6k\]: good shape DrWily [-\]: horse kyurin [1d\]: horse head.. ouigkmy [17k\]: sake bottle? go [9k?\]: connection ] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[or]CR[or] ;W[qo]CR[qo] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[rn]CR[rn] ;B[qn]CR[qn] ;W[ro]CR[ro] ;B[rm]CR[rm] ;W[rr]CR[nn][np][nq][rr] ;B[mo]CR[mo] ;W[no]CR[no] ;B[nl]CR[nl]C[Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: totally dead CBlue [8k\]: seal it! ])) (;B[np]CR[np] ;W[mp]CR[mp] ;B[no]CR[no]C[WildW [9k\]: I love this move ^^ ] ;W[oq]CR[oq] ;B[pq]CR[pq]C[rayen [6k\]: I dont ] (;W[op]CR[op] ;B[oo]CR[oo] ;W[po]CR[po]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: neither do I ] (;B[pr]CR[pr]LB[pn:B][mq:A]C[grmaster [1d?\]: B Q6 move first ^^ willzhang [9d\]: it's same kyurin [1d\]: ;O WildW [9k\]: I would LIke A ImNoSensei [-\]: same ] (;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[qo]CR[qo] ;B[qn]CR[qn] ;W[rp]CR[rp] ;B[rn]CR[rn] ;W[rr]CR[rr] ;B[rq]CR[rq]C[grmaster [1d?\]: looks abit wrong for me ^^ ]) (;W[qo]CR[qo] ;B[mq]CR[mq]) (;W[pn]CR[pn] ;B[mq]CR[mq])) (;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[qo]CR[qo] ;B[pr]CR[pr]C[grmaster [1d?\]: before Q2 B has Q6 ] ;W[qn]CR[qn])) (;W[lq]CR[lq] ;B[qn]CR[qn]SQ[jp]) (;W[mo]CR[mo] ;B[nn]CR[nn] ;W[gp]CR[gp]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: protect D4 ? Uberdude [8k\]: K6 ? go [9k?\]: ikken tobi ImNoSensei [-\]: K4 light enough Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: F3 geoduck [3k?\]: strengthen weaker of em? ImNoSensei [-\]: D6 go [9k?\]: K6 CBlue [8k\]: if w K3, should b J3? ] (;B[dn]CR[dn]C[rayen [6k\]: E3 ] ;W[jn]CR[jn]C[DrWily [-\]: i like N6 Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: J5 ] (;B[ho]CR[ho]) (;B[eq]CR[eq])) (;B[jn]CR[jn]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: ok Uberdude [8k\]: ^^ chrpa [6k\]: bad move, ok? CBlue [8k\]: best ] (;W[gm]CR[gm]C[Shibuya [24k?\]: K6 bad? move go [9k?\]: white is cut in 2 groups willzhang [9d\]: best~ willzhang [9d\]: sorry chrpa [6k\]: ok Shibuya [24k?\]: ah ]) (;W[dm]CR[dm] ;B[mn]LB[mn:A] (;W[cq]CR[cq] ;B[kq]CR[kq]C[CBlue [8k\]: :-D Shibuya [24k?\]: one side or the other ] ;W[cp]CR[cp]) (;W[lq]CR[lq] ;B[kr]CR[kr] (;W[lr]CR[lr] ;B[cq]CR[cq] ;W[cf]CR[cf] ;B[fo]CR[fo]C[Shibuya [24k?\]: i see chrpa [6k\]: great ]) (;W[jq]CR[jq]C[CBlue [8k\]: yeah ] ;B[kq]CR[kq] ;W[kp]CR[kp] (;B[ko]CR[ko] ;W[lp]CR[lp] ;B[iq]CR[iq]C[CBlue [8k\]: ok ]) (;B[iq]CR[iq] ;W[jo]CR[jo] ;B[ip]CR[ip] ;W[io]CR[io] ;B[ko]CR[ko] ;W[kn]CR[kn] ;B[lp]CR[lp] ;W[lo]CR[lo] ;B[kp]CR[kp] ;W[ln]CR[ln] ;B[jm]CR[jm] ;W[ho]CR[ho] ;B[lr]CR[lr] ;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[gr]CR[gr]C[Shibuya [24k?\]: so the strong dont fight..... Shibuya [24k?\]: i see CBlue [8k\]: thanks ]))) (;W[jq]CR[jq]C[grmaster [1d?\]: K3 looks tricky ^^ CBlue [8k\]: when w was at M3 already CBlue [8k\]: and b played L2 Shibuya [24k?\]: its an exchange isnt it ])) (;W[jq]CR[jq]C[CBlue [8k\]: previous position CBlue [8k\]: not here ])))) (;B[lq]CR[lq]C[aspiration [11k\]: very strong lecture ] ;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[qp]CR[qp] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[pr]CR[pr] ;B[or]CR[or] ;W[qr]CR[qr] ;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[qn]CR[qn]LB[jp:A][lq:B]C[go [9k?\]: but the corner is cut of ImNoSensei [-\]: overconcentrated in even game ] ;B[pn]CR[pn] ;W[qm]CR[qm] ;B[pm]CR[pm]) (;B[pn]CR[pn]LB[lq:B][qq:A] (;W[pl]CR[pl]) (;W[no]CR[no] ;B[nm]CR[nm]) (;W[qq]CR[qq]) (;W[gp]CR[gp]C[chrpa [6k\]: i see ] (;B[jn]LB[jn:B][jp:A]C[Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: i gave up sleeping to view this lecture chrpa [6k\]: yes Shibuya [24k?\]: i see grmaster [1d?\]: may be it is better to play P3 before K6 ? grmaster [1d?\]: or I am wrong? geoduck [3k?\]: this is more ambiguous willzhang [9d\]: every move has a sideeffect WildW [9k\]: even a1 t1 willzhang [9d\]: :) WildW [9k\]: =) willzhang [9d\]: what we can do is: use all our stones which already on board willzhang [9d\]: make them more useful grmaster [1d?\]: yeah that's true willzhang [9d\]: coz we could move them :( geoduck [3k?\]: this k6 looks so balanced grmaster [1d?\]: this is why I am not sure about P3 willzhang [9d\]: It is not chess!! WildW [9k\]: lol willzhang [9d\]: :) chrpa [6k\]: GO :) godspeed [7k\]: what's chess? :p willzhang [9d\]: good question potipoti [6d?\]: will geoduck [3k?\]: grmaster.. shouldnt you be studying chess josekis? CBlue [8k\]: in your sequence where b L2, w M2, b C3, what does b play if w plays K3? potipoti [6d?\]: what do you think about shogi? ImNoSensei [-\]: shogi is so close to chess willzhang [9d\]: Q3 is not so suggest ed because it is not a good move all the time WildW [9k\]: q3 for b is small ImNoSensei [-\]: it is slow ImNoSensei [-\]: not that small ] (;W[jq]CR[jq] ;B[kq]CR[kq] (;W[iq]CR[iq]C[grmaster [1d?\]: I mean P3 before K6 ? ] ;B[kp]CR[kp]C[Uberdude [8k\]: if crosscut? ]) (;W[kp]CR[kp] ;B[iq]CR[iq] ;W[jr]CR[jr] ;B[lq]CR[lq]LB[ko:A][ir:B]C[Uberdude [8k\]: A needs ladder though willzhang [9d\]: A or B ,white die one side Uberdude [8k\]: so w could tenuki, and play ladder breaker ] ;W[pl]CR[pl] ;B[] ;W[ir]CR[ir]C[ImNoSensei [-\]: ladders have a good chance to favor B ^_~ ] ;B[mp]CR[mp] ;W[ko]CR[ko] ;B[jo]CR[jo] ;W[kn]CR[kn] ;B[jm]CR[jm]LB[np:A][hq:B]C[WildW [9k\]: A is a safer move WildW [9k\]: O4 willzhang [9d\]: safe is enough WildW [9k\]: =) ])) (;W[gm]CR[gm] ;B[] ;W[jl]CR[jl] ;B[] ;W[mm]CR[mm] ;B[] ;W[no]CR[no]) (;W[oo]CR[oo]C[willzhang [9d\]: y :) willzhang [9d\]: but it is still a seal Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: ok sir ^^ willzhang [9d\]: that give white a chance ] ;B[po]CR[po] ;W[nm]CR[nm] ;B[pl]CR[pl] ;W[gm]CR[gm]C[Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: pretty weak seal ] ;B[dm]CR[dm] ;W[jl]CR[jl]) (;W[dm]CR[dm]C[godspeed [7k\]: ronaldhino, remember w is at least 9 stones stronger than b in 9 handi game Shibuya [24k?\]: success start from chances go [9k?\]: sansan again ? adHominem [13k\]: f10? Uberdude [8k\]: is c4 any better? or d3? Uberdude [8k\]: ok, thx ] (;B[cq]CR[cq] ;W[fc]CR[fc] ;B[en]CR[en]LB[dm:A][gp:B]) (;B[en]CR[en]C[geoduck [3k?\]: ambiguity is an ingredient of miai ] (;W[cq]CR[cq] ;B[dq]CR[dq] ;W[cp]CR[cp] ;B[dn]CR[dn] ;W[cn]CR[cn] ;B[co]CR[co] ;W[bo]CR[bo] ;B[do]CR[do] ;W[bm]CR[bm] ;B[em]CR[em] ;W[dl]CR[dl] ;B[fk]CR[fk] ;W[gn]CR[gn] ;B[el]CR[el]LB[gn:A][gp:B][nq:C]) (;W[em]CR[em] ;B[fn]CR[fn] ;W[dn]CR[dn] ;B[do]CR[do] ;W[fq]CR[fq]LB[eo:A][dr:B]C[Mramahi1 [9k\]: E3 potipoti [6d?\]: e3 willzhang [9d\]: anybody? ImNoSensei [-\]: e3 Uberdude [8k\]: E3 Jinging [?\]: f4 willzhang [9d\]: ok,great ] ;B[eq]CR[eq] (;W[eo]CR[eo]C[Uberdude [8k\]: but if E£ E2 D2 E4 D3 E5 ? ] ;B[fo]CR[fo]) (;W[er]CR[er] ;B[dr]CR[dr] ;W[ep]CR[ep] ;B[dq]CR[dq] ;W[eo]CR[eo] ;B[go]CR[go] ;W[fp]CR[fp]))) (;B[cp]CR[cp]C[godspeed [7k\]: sound is good ] (;W[eq]CR[eq] ;B[dq]CR[dq] ;W[iq]CR[iq]) (;W[dr]CR[dr]C[Shibuya [24k?\]: ok ] ;B[cr]CR[cr] ;W[dq]CR[dq] ;B[cq]CR[cq]C[chrpa [6k\]: i dont hear audio, do you? ] ;W[fq]CR[fq]C[Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: yes Shibuya [24k?\]: i do Uberdude [8k\]: ok, thanks seonkinrot [-\]: loud and clear chrpa [6k\]: ok, WildW [9k\]: I hear him fine geoduck [3k?\]: maybe close window and reopen to get audio Shibuya [24k?\]: yeah Uberdude [8k\]: yes =) molboni [12k?\]: yes Shibuya [24k?\]: i hear perfect adHominem [13k\]: yes Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: yes Shibuya [24k?\]: v clea ]))) (;W[dn]CR[dn] (;B[cq]CR[cq] ;W[gn]CR[gn]) (;B[en]CR[en] ;W[em]CR[em] ;B[fn]CR[fn] (;W[do]CR[do] ;B[ep]CR[ep] ;W[eo]CR[eo] ;B[fo]CR[fo] ;W[fp]CR[fp] ;B[cp]CR[cp]LB[dm:A] ;W[gm]CR[gm] ;B[dm]CR[dm]LB[cp:A]) (;W[cq]CR[cq] ;B[dq]CR[dq] ;W[do]CR[do] ;B[fp]CR[fp] ;W[cp]CR[cp] ;B[fq]CR[fq])))) (;B[cn]CR[cn] ;W[jn]CR[jn] ;B[lp]CR[lp] ;W[oo]CR[oo]C[grmaster [1d?\]: may be P3 first for B? Ronaldinh0 [15k\]: [\][\][\] e ]) (;B[dn]CR[dn] ;W[jn]CR[jn] ;B[io]CR[io] ;W[dm]CR[dm]C[godspeed [7k\]: e6 b ouigkmy [17k\]: e7? potipoti [6d?\]: c6 looks nice chrpa [6k\]: f5 Dunja [17k\]: c7 AprilSnow [?\]: g6? seonkinrot [-\]: perhaps g5? Dunja [17k\]: or c6? ImNoSensei [-\]: f6 ? ] (;B[en]CR[en] ;W[gn]CR[gn]LB[em:A][in:B]C[godspeed [7k\]: ok ]) (;B[cm]CR[cm] ;W[cl]CR[cl] (;B[cn]CR[cn] ;W[gn]CR[gn]LB[cj:B][em:C][dr:A]) (;B[dl]CR[dl] ;W[em]CR[em])) (;B[gn]CR[gn] (;W[cn]CR[cn] ;B[en]CR[en] ;W[cq]CR[cq] ;B[dq]CR[dq]) (;W[ho]CR[ho] ;B[in]CR[in] ;W[hn]CR[hn] ;B[im]CR[im] ;W[hm]CR[hm] ;B[en]CR[en]) (;W[fn]CR[fn]C[godspeed [7k\]: thx a lot chrpa [6k\]: ok, great lecture ] ;B[fo]CR[fo]C[molboni [12k?\]: thank you seonkinrot [-\]: thanks Titonio [?\]: thx ouigkmy [17k\]: thanks WildW [9k\]: thank you for the lecture chrpa [6k\]: thank you ] ;W[go]CR[go]C[AprilSnow [?\]: xie xie :) geoduck [3k?\]: thanks quasigoose [-\]: thank you a lot Uberdude [8k\]: thank you will =) ] ;B[hn]CR[hn]C[feyd [15k?\]: thank you godspeed [7k\]: is there a web page with schedules for lectures? adHominem [13k\]: thx a lot will ]))) (;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[np]CR[np] ;B[lp]CR[lp]C[willzhang [9d\]: M4 is better then just K6 willzhang [9d\]: in this sequence grmaster [1d?\]: so this is better to play P3 ? willzhang [9d\]: but, thinking about ,maybe P3 make white a littlebit stronger willzhang [9d\]: we may save it also grmaster [1d?\]: hum ]))) (;B[qn]TR[pj][pp]SQ[qn] ;W[ql]CR[ql] ;B[pl]CR[pl]) (;B[] (;W[pm]CR[pm]) (;W[pn]CR[pn] ;B[on]CR[on] ;W[om]CR[om] ;B[nn]CR[nn] (;W[qq]CR[qq] ;B[pq]CR[pq] ;W[po]CR[po]C[willzhang [9d\]: y :) seonkinrot [-\]: o4? ] (;B[oo]CR[oo]C[ouigkmy [17k\]: empty triangles Hu [12k?\]: Double empty triangle. ] ;W[qp]CR[qp] ;B[op]CR[op] ;W[pl]CR[pl]LB[no:A][oq:B]) (;B[qp]CR[qp] ;W[oo]CR[oo] ;B[np]CR[np] ;W[op]CR[op] ;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[no]CR[no] ;B[mp]CR[mp])) (;W[po]CR[po]C[WildW [9k\]: 4th line always good ] ;B[op]CR[op] ;W[oo]CR[oo] ;B[np]CR[np] ;W[no]CR[no] ;B[mp]CR[mp]TR[nn][on][nq])))) (;W[mp]CR[mp]) (;W[mq]CR[mq] ;B[oq]CR[oq] ;W[jr]CR[jr] ;B[iq]CR[iq]))